Comments on: Illegal Immigration Debate Besmirches Alamo Hero’s http://www.voteswagon.com/2006/04/11/illegal-immigration-debate-besmirches-alamo-heros/ One opinion, one vote, you can make a difference. Tue, 18 May 2010 10:26:24 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: sans-culotte http://www.voteswagon.com/2006/04/11/illegal-immigration-debate-besmirches-alamo-heros/comment-page-1/#comment-475 sans-culotte Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:48:39 +0000 http://www.voteswagon.com/2006/04/11/illegal-immigration-debate-besmirches-alamo-heros/#comment-475 <i>On March 21, near the Iraqi port town of Umm Qasr, 28-year-old Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez was one of several U.S. soldiers who, as required by the Geneva Convention, motioned to accept the surrender of a group of Iraqi "soldiers" who had just raised a white flag. When Gutierrez and several other comrades were exposed, the Iraqis suddenly opened fire, killing him and several comrades. On March 27, near the Iraqi city of An Nasiriyah, 21-year-old Marine Corps Cpl. Jose Angel Garibay also motioned to accept the surrender of Iraqis. But what had happened to Lance Cpl. Gutierrez now happened to Cpl. Garibay. It was no surrender, but an ambush, and Cpl. Garibay lost his life. ...</i> Both of these soldiers died within the very first week of the war in Iraq, but what makes their deaths all too important to the immigration debate today is this... <i>The sacrifice of these young men is no different than that made by any of the other young Americans who have given "the last full measure" in this or any other war, except in one, very noteworthy respect – at the time they died, neither was an American. Gutierrez was born in Guatemala and when he was 14, entered this country as an illegal immigrant. Garibay was born in Mexico and moved here as a child. Neither man was a citizen at the time of their deaths. ...</i> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31990 These men died for us. They died for chimpy's lies, yes, but they still died serving for our country, and they were illegal aliens. And they weren't the only ones either... <i>Even though his coffin was draped with the American flag, U.S. Marine Staff Sergeant Riayan Tejeda, 26, was not a U.S.citizen. Tejeda, who was killed in combat in Iraq, was a native of the Dominican Republic. (...) There is no law prohibiting illegal immigrants from joining in the army but the armed forces representative says anyone without proper documents is rejected, according to a report in the New York Times. Tejeda and at least six other U.S. servicemen killed in the war in Iraq had not yet become citizens. Six of these immigrants were granted citizenship posthumously but their relatives did not receive the benefits that would normally go to the families of the citizens. (...) More than 36,000 service members are non-citizens, making up about 5 percent of active duty service members. About a third come from Mexico and other Spanish-speaking countries and the rest are from China, Vietnam, Canada, Korea, India and other countries. ...</i> http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/immigrants/20030501/11/368 5% of our military are not US citizens. That ought to count for something in this debate. On March 21, near the Iraqi port town of Umm Qasr, 28-year-old Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez was one of several U.S. soldiers who, as required by the Geneva Convention, motioned to accept the surrender of a group of Iraqi “soldiers” who had just raised a white flag. When Gutierrez and several other comrades were exposed, the Iraqis suddenly opened fire, killing him and several comrades.

On March 27, near the Iraqi city of An Nasiriyah, 21-year-old Marine Corps Cpl. Jose Angel Garibay also motioned to accept the surrender of Iraqis. But what had happened to Lance Cpl. Gutierrez now happened to Cpl. Garibay. It was no surrender, but an ambush, and Cpl. Garibay lost his life. …

Both of these soldiers died within the very first week of the war in Iraq, but what makes their deaths all too important to the immigration debate today is this…

The sacrifice of these young men is no different than that made by any of the other young Americans who have given “the last full measure” in this or any other war, except in one, very noteworthy respect – at the time they died, neither was an American. Gutierrez was born in Guatemala and when he was 14, entered this country as an illegal immigrant. Garibay was born in Mexico and moved here as a child. Neither man was a citizen at the time of their deaths. …
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31990

These men died for us.

They died for chimpy’s lies, yes, but they still died serving for our country, and they were illegal aliens.

And they weren’t the only ones either…

Even though his coffin was draped with the American flag, U.S. Marine Staff Sergeant Riayan Tejeda, 26, was not a U.S.citizen. Tejeda, who was killed in combat in Iraq, was a native of the Dominican Republic. (…)

There is no law prohibiting illegal immigrants from joining in the army but the armed forces representative says anyone without proper documents is rejected, according to a report in the New York Times.

Tejeda and at least six other U.S. servicemen killed in the war in Iraq had not yet become citizens. Six of these immigrants were granted citizenship posthumously but their relatives did not receive the benefits that would normally go to the families of the citizens. (…)

More than 36,000 service members are non-citizens, making up about 5 percent of active duty service members. About a third come from Mexico and other Spanish-speaking countries and the rest are from China, Vietnam, Canada, Korea, India and other countries. …
http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/immigrants/20030501/11/368

5% of our military are not US citizens.

That ought to count for something in this debate.

]]> By: chuck http://www.voteswagon.com/2006/04/11/illegal-immigration-debate-besmirches-alamo-heros/comment-page-1/#comment-474 chuck Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:03:52 +0000 http://www.voteswagon.com/2006/04/11/illegal-immigration-debate-besmirches-alamo-heros/#comment-474 BLACK UNIFORMS Josh Roberts double-locked the door behind him and anxiously peeked through the curtains. He didn’t see any of the dreaded black uniforms of the Federales. Roberts turned on his computer and re-set the preferences for English grammar instead of Spanish. Ever since Texas independence turned the state into Nuevo Tejas, all English language publications were illegal. If anyone found out about Liberty, Robert’s underground newspaper, he and his family would be tossed into the Dallas County jail for . . . well, who knew for how long? Roberts had worked for the Dallas Morning News before it was banned and re-born as the Dallas Reconquista. Reconquista stood for re-conquest; the acquisition by immigration of the lost Mexican territories of Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona. It once seemed like a ridiculous idea, but the numbers made it a reality. After the 2006 amnesty bill gave citizenship to fifteen million illegal immigrants, another twenty million Latino illegal immigrants promptly moved to Texas. What Mexico lost at San Jacinto they won back with immigration. Once they had a majority of the electorate, the Latinos simply voted in Latino mayors, chiefs of police, state legislators and – finally – the Governor. Vicente Diaz was the Governor until he declared Texas independence from the U.S. and made himself Presidente. The 1876 Texas constitution vaguely allowed independence. But the real power behind independence came from the Mexico/Venezuela oil embargo and the millions of immigrants marching in the streets. The U.S. politicians quickly bowed to the wishes of Latino voters in their own states and let Texas go. However, an aide on Diaz’s staff had slipped Roberts secret documents which proved that the Mexican drug cartels provided the financing for Diaz. This was the bombshell Roberts planned for the front page of Liberty. As Roberts opened his newspaper layout program on his laptop, he heard a knock at the door. He went to the door and looked through the peephole. All he saw were black uniforms. BLACK UNIFORMS

Josh Roberts double-locked the door behind him and anxiously peeked through the curtains. He didn’t see any of the dreaded black uniforms of the Federales.
Roberts turned on his computer and re-set the preferences for English grammar instead of Spanish. Ever since Texas independence turned the state into Nuevo Tejas, all English language publications were illegal. If anyone found out about Liberty, Robert’s underground newspaper, he and his family would be tossed into the Dallas County jail for . . . well, who knew for how long?
Roberts had worked for the Dallas Morning News before it was banned and re-born as the Dallas Reconquista. Reconquista stood for re-conquest; the acquisition by immigration of the lost Mexican territories of Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona. It once seemed like a ridiculous idea, but the numbers made it a reality.
After the 2006 amnesty bill gave citizenship to fifteen million illegal immigrants, another twenty million Latino illegal immigrants promptly moved to Texas. What Mexico lost at San Jacinto they won back with immigration. Once they had a majority of the electorate, the Latinos simply voted in Latino mayors, chiefs of police, state legislators and – finally – the Governor.
Vicente Diaz was the Governor until he declared Texas independence from the U.S. and made himself Presidente. The 1876 Texas constitution vaguely allowed independence. But the real power behind independence came from the Mexico/Venezuela oil embargo and the millions of immigrants marching in the streets. The U.S. politicians quickly bowed to the wishes of Latino voters in their own states and let Texas go.
However, an aide on Diaz’s staff had slipped Roberts secret documents which proved that the Mexican drug cartels provided the financing for Diaz. This was the bombshell Roberts planned for the front page of Liberty. As Roberts opened his newspaper layout program on his laptop, he heard a knock at the door. He went to the door and looked through the peephole.
All he saw were black uniforms.

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